In this episode, Dr. Howard Schubiner, MD, shares eye-opening insights into how the brain keeps chronic symptoms like ME/CFS and Long Covid stuck in a loop—and, most importantly, how to break free. We dive into the science of mind-body medicine, the hidden role of fear, and practical steps to rewire the brain for recovery.
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CONNECT WITH DR. HOWARD SCHUBINER, MD:
🌐 Dr. Schubiner's Website (research, books and other resources) — https://unlearnyourpain.com/
👨⚕️ Dr. Howard Schubiner's FREE Course on Brain Retraining for Chronic Pain — https://www.coursera.org/learn/reign-of-pain
🌐 ATNS / Symptomatic (list of practitioners, research, info on neuroplastic symptoms) —
https://www.symptomatic.me/
BOOKS AND INTERVIEWS MENTIONED:
📗 Unlearn Your Pain by Howard Schubiner, MD — https://amzn.to/4e8zm1u
📘 Unlearn Your Anxiety and Depression by Howard Schubiner, MD — https://amzn.to/45MQlU9
📖 The Way Out by Alan Gordon — https://amzn.to/3SKZgB0
📘 Chasing Peace by Tom Rosshirt — https://amzn.to/4gUjC2Y
📗 Man’s Search for Meaning by Victor Frankl — https://amzn.to/4hNuy3N
👩🏻🦰 Nurse Jo's Recovery Story —
https://youtu.be/-t5bJzsBY8I
MORE FREE RESOURCES:
👉 TMS Wiki — https://www.tmswiki.org/
🏠 Alan Gordon's FREE Online Chronic Pain Recovery Course 👉 https://www.tmswiki.org/forum/painrecovery/
🎯 READ THE SCIENCE BEHIND CHRONIC PAIN:
🛎️ The Boulder Chronic Back Pain Study: 66% became pain or nearly pain free with pain reprocessing therapy maintained at one year - https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34586357/
🛎️ Harvard Psychophysiologic Symptom Relief Therapy for post-acute sequelae of Covid - https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.10.07.22280732v1.full-text
🛎️ Emotional Awareness and Expression Therapy and education for fibromyalgia: A randomized controlled trial - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5680092/
🛎️ The PPDA complete bibliography of research studies - https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5b75908755b02cf7e029e10e/t/6470177aa4720b33e48529cf/1685067643188/PPD+Bibliography+June+2023.pdf
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TIME STAMPS:
00:00 🔗 How Emotional & Physical Pain Are Linked
01:03 🙋♂️ Meet Dr. Howard Schubiner, MD
02:50 💡 The Brain’s Role in Chronic Pain & Fatigue
05:02 🤔 What Really Creates What We Feel?
06:55 🔥 What Most Doctors Don’t Know
07:30 🏥 Why Symptoms Can Persist After an Injury or Virus
08:26 👨⚕️ The #1 Thing You MUST Do
09:01 🧠 Why Is Our Brain Making Us Sick?
12:07 🤯 How Symptoms Become 'Learned' by the Brain
14:07 🎯 This is Why People Get Stuck
16:58 🔑 Breaking the Fear-Symptom Cycle
18:27 🔄 Do Personality Traits Affect Recovery?
20:08 ❤️ The Unexpected Key to Recovery
22:31 ✨ This Rewires Your Brain for Health
24:00 🏡 How Childhood Shapes Chronic Symptoms
28:20 🌱 The Quickest Way to Getting Better
29:05 🔄 The ONLY Thing You Can Control
33:09 🚀 You Can Do Something Right Now
34:28 🚪 What If This DOESN’T Work for Me?
38:22 🧩 A Mind-Blowing Concept About Your Thoughts
42:24 🧠 How the Brain Speaks to Us
43:00 🌱 Paths to Get Better
44:20 🎓 A Hopeful Message for Anyone Struggling
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