Wisdom, Purpose, and the Search for Coherence with John Vervaeke | TGS 158

(Conversation recorded on November 25th, 2024) The crises that our world is facing seem to be constantly growing, leading to enormous and devastating systemic effects across the globe. Yet, the ripples of the human predicament are also reaching our personal lives in unexpected ways – through chronic loneliness, loss of coherence to reality, and a widespread feeling of insignificance. How do we begin to navigate the crisis of meaning that seems to accompany modernity, exacerbated by feeling out of control in the broader world we live in? In today’s conversation, Nate is joined by professor of psychology and cognitive scientist John Vervaeke to discuss the state of ‘the meaning crisis’, including the social and cultural contexts that have fostered such pervasive loss of connection and purpose. Vervaeke also unpacks the key practices that he and others have found most effective in regaining wisdom and direction while living in the modern era. What can cognitive science tell us about the role of spirituality and religion in living a life that is rich in relationships and clarity? How do flow states, rituals, and lifelong learning contribute to strengthening mental health and fostering adaptability? And perhaps most importantly, how might reconnecting with a sense of humility, wisdom, and shared humanity help guide us toward a more meaningful, collective existence? About John Vervaeke: John Vervaeke, Ph.D. is an award-winning professor at the University of Toronto in the departments of psychology, cognitive science, and Buddhist psychology. He currently teaches courses in the Psychology department on thinking and reasoning, cognitive development, and higher cognitive processes. John is also the director of the Cognitive Science program where he teaches additional courses on Cognitive Science and consciousness, wherein he emphasizes 4E (embodied, embedded, enacted, and extended) models of cognition and consciousness. Additionally, John is the director of the Consciousness and Wisdom Studies Laboratory. He is also the co-author of the book Zombies in Western Culture: A 21st Century Crisis, which integrates Psychology and Cognitive Science to address the meaning crisis in Western society. He is the author and presenter of the YouTube series Awakening from the Meaning Crisis. Show Notes and More: https://www.thegreatsimplification.com/episode/158-john-vervaeke --- Support The Institute for the Study of Energy and Our Future: https://www.thegreatsimplification.com/support Join our Substack newsletter: https://natehagens.substack.com/ Join our Discord channel and connect with other listeners: https://discord.gg/ZFfQqtqMJf --- 00:00 - Introduction 02:41 - The Meaning Crisis 06:57 - Spiritual Bypassing and Conspirituality 14:05 - Meaning in the Past 16:31 - Cultural vs Individual Meaning 21:45 - Adaptive Function of Mystical Experiences 27:53 - Humanity’s Best Technologies 30:44 - Collective Wisdom 34:16 - Flow States 38:44 - Humanity’s Potential 42:41 - Defining Meaning 46:11 - Religion and Economic Growth 54:49 - Contemplating Death 57:20 - Individual vs Collective Learning 59:46 - Transcendence 01:01:33 - Scaling Meaning 01:12:33 - Our Place in Time 01:15:45 - Human Cleverness and Foolishness 01:24:28 - Certainty 01:26:28 - Ecology of Practices 01:28:11 - Closing Questions