Why being "Toxic" and "Nice" doesn't matter / HEROIC's unexpected roster move - Counter-Points S2E17

Thorin and Maniac discuss results from ESL Pro League, a roster rumor that degster will replace nicodoz on HEROIC, narratives surrounding "toxic" and "nice players, hallzerk and Complexity's recent performances, expectations for MOUZ at this event, and more! Counter-Points is a Counter-Strike talk show, hosted by Duncan "Thorin" Shields and Mathieu "Maniac" Quiquerez. This video was recorded on the 5th of May, 2024. Watch Counter-Points on Spotify with video! https://open.spotify.com/show/03cKlfp8JxpF3jl58v8X1I Listen to Counter-Points on podcast platforms: Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/counter-points/id1702634452 Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/counter-points/PC:1001077653 Pocket Casts: https://pca.st/4vg7fl4i iHeart: https://iheart.com/podcast/121071001/ Join the crew by following us on all social media platforms! ► Twitter: https://twitter.com/LastFreeNation ► Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/insightonesports ► Main YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@lastfreenation ► CS YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@lastfreenationcs ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lastfreenation ► Discord: https://discord.gg/zeWYq4JhEU ► Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lastfreenation ► Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@lastfreenation ► Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/lastfreenation ► Snapchat: https://www.snapchat.com/add/last-freenation 0:00:00 - Intro 0:01:43 - HEROIC 0:13:56 - degster in, nicodoz out at HEROIC? 0:37:55 - Complexity 0:51:45 - Do "nice" players lack ambition? 1:03:01 - Team Liquid 1:18:14 - MOUZ 1:25:06 - ENCE #podcast #counterstrike #thorin