Trump’s New World Order: Tariffs, China and Nationalism | Walter Russell Mead

Join John Anderson as he speaks with Walter Russell Mead, distinguished historian and foreign policy expert, recorded on April 8, 2025. As President Trump escalates his tariff war—threatening a 50% hike on China—Mead unravels the strategy behind this divisive move. Their dialogue spans the potential consolidation of American authority, the transformation of global trade, and the erosion of the post-World War II framework. Mead delivers a detailed geopolitical analysis, illuminating Trump’s objectives, Australia’s strategic position in a volatile Indo-Pacific, and the implications of China’s expanding naval presence. The discussion extends to Mead’s work, The Arc of a Covenant, which traces the deep U.S.-Israel connection amid evolving global currents. Offering perspectives on sovereignty, economic upheaval, and America’s role in world leadership, this episode provides a vital lens on the forces redefining our era. Walter Russell Mead is the Ravenel B. Curry III Distinguished Fellow in Strategy and Statesmanship at Hudson Institute, the Global View Columnist at The Wall Street Journal, and the James Clarke Chace Professor of Foreign Affairs and Humanities at Bard College in New York. He is also a member of Aspen Institute Italy and board member of Aspenia. Before joining Hudson, Mr. Mead was a fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations as the Henry A. Kissinger Senior Fellow for U.S. Foreign Policy. He has authored numerous books, including the widely-recognized Special Providence: American Foreign Policy and How It Changed the World (Alfred A. Knopf, 2004). His latest book is entitled The Arc of A Covenant: The United States, Israel, and the Future of the Jewish People. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 0:00 - Introduction and Trump’s Tariff Escalation 3:32 - Analyzing Trump’s Consolidation of Power 10:22 - Decline of the Post-War Global Framework 15:26 - Economic Impacts: Inflation and Disruption 27:15 - Tariffs as a Strategic Fiscal Tool 34:47 - Australia’s Role in Indo-Pacific Tensions 43:55 - China’s Military Expansion and Taiwan 54:52 - Beijing’s Perspective on Trump’s Strategy 1:03:07 - U.S.-Israel Relations in Trump’s Era 1:09:35 - America’s Path: Renewal or Decline -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Conversations feature John Anderson, former Deputy Prime Minister of Australia, interviewing the world's foremost thought leaders about today's pressing social, cultural and political issues. John believes proper, robust dialogue is necessary if we are to maintain our social strength and cohesion. As he puts it; "You cannot get good public policy out of a bad public debate." If you value this discussion and want to see more like it, make sure you subscribe to the channel here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtnYSEGViOnb7k8ezUaWUww?sub_confirmation=1 And stay right up to date with all the conversations by subscribing to the newsletter here: https://johnanderson.net.au/contact/ Follow John on Twitter: https://twitter.com/JohnAndersonAC Follow John on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/johnandersonac Follow John on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/johnandersonac/ Support the channel: https://johnanderson.net.au/support/ Website: https://johnanderson.net.au/ Podcast: https://johnanderson.net.au/podcasts/ 2QH0QLLWRVNX5LFA -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- https://x.com/wrmead