Ely calls in claiming the Bible proves Jesus was the son of God. When asked what evidence he has besides the Bible, Ely cites no external evidence and asserts the Bible validates its own claims through interwoven testimony. The hosts explain why this is circular reasoning and question Ely's confident claims about biblical authorship that conflict with scholarly consensus.
As Ely persists in making unsubstantiated assertions about the Bible proving itself, the hosts point out his flaws, like relying on faith and fallacies. Ely ignores their rebuttals and continues using weak arguments like finding brimstone where Sodom was. The hosts express their frustration at Ely's shallow reasoning and ignorance of scholarship. The call ends disappointingly with both sides unconvinced, Ely still asserting the Bible is self-evidently true.
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