Science Is Preventing Us from Discovering God or Angels?! | Forrest Valkai and Shannon Q

Caller Steve discusses criticisms of "scientism"- the belief science is the only path to truth. He wonders if science's focus on natural explanations means it would miss a supernatural God. Forrest asks Steve to clarify if he means science or scientism. The hosts push back that if gods like the Islamic God interacted with reality and humans, that would make them measurable by science. They debate whether Muhammad could have been honestly mistaken rather than lying or telling the truth. Steve feels Muhammad was sincere and prophets like him had alleged experiences of the divine. The hosts argue holy texts also contain clear scientific errors and ask why Steve doesn't then believe Christianity. Steve acknowledges good counterarguments against his stance but feels the Quran contains some accurate "scientific miracles." The hosts liken this to horoscopes and say religious texts are so broad followers project meaning onto them. Original Episode : https://youtube.com/live/Q2k39VaYvJk SUPPORT THE NETWORK --------------------------------------------------- Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/CallTheLine Become a Channel Member: SUPPORT PRODUCTION --------------------------------------------------- Paypal: https://www.paypal.me/mratheist Cashapp: https://cash.app/$jimmyasnow Amazon Wishlist: https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/3AXN5GUWNFFYA MORE LIVE SHOWS & CLIPS --------------------------------------------------- https://www.youtube.com/@callthelinex CONTACT US --------------------------------------------------- [email protected] HOSTS --------------------------------------------------- Jimmy Snow: @JimmySnow Matt Dillahunty: @SansDeity Arden Hart: https://twitter.com/theardenhart Katy Montgomerie: @KatyMontgomerie Forrest Valkai: @RenegadeScienceTeacher Dr. Ben: @FamilyDrBen Aron Ra: @AronRa Shannon Q: @ShannonQ John Gleason: @godlessengineer Dave Warnock: https://iamdyingoutloud.org/ ADDRESS --------------------------------------------------- The Line 110 N Interstate 35 Suite 315-1027 Round Rock, TX 78681 United States SHOWS ON THE LINE --------------------------------------------------- Sundays: The Sunday Show Monday: Skeptalk Tuesday: Dying Out Loud Wednesday: The Hang Up Thursday: The Trans Atlantic Call In Show (TACIS) Look out for “HOSTility” and “Cus I Wanna” any day, any time #CallTheLine