Mike Israetel vs. Liron Shapira — AI Doom Debate

Dr. Mike Israetel, renowned exercise scientist and social media personality, and more recently a low-P(doom) AI futurist, graciously offered to debate me! 00:00 Introducing Mike Israetel 12:19 What’s Your P(Doom)™ 30:58 Timelines for Artificial General Intelligence 34:49 Superhuman AI Capabilities 43:26 AI Reasoning and Creativity 47:12 Evil AI Scenario 01:08:06 Will the AI Cooperate With Us? 01:12:27 AI's Dependence on Human Labor 01:18:27 Will AI Keep Us Around to Study Us? 01:42:38 AI's Approach to Earth's Resources 01:53:22 Global AI Policies and Risks 02:03:02 The Quality of Doom Discourse 02:09:23 Liron’s Outro Show Notes Mike’s Instagram — https://www.instagram.com/drmikeisraetel Mike’s YouTube — https://www.youtube.com/@MikeIsraetelMakingProgress --- Come to the Less Online conference on May 30 - Jun 1, 2025: https://less.online Hope to see you there! --- Watch the Lethal Intelligence Guide, the ultimate introduction to AI x-risk! https://www.youtube.com/@lethal-intelligence PauseAI, the volunteer organization I’m part of: https://pauseai.info Join the PauseAI Discord — https://discord.gg/2XXWXvErfA — and say hi to me in the #doom-debates-podcast channel! --- Doom Debates’ Mission is to raise mainstream awareness of imminent extinction from AGI and build the social infrastructure for high-quality debate. Support the mission by subscribing to my Substack at https://doomdebates.com and to https://youtube.com/@DoomDebates