"Former Atheist" FAILS to Defend Vague God Concept! Matt Dillahunty + Dave Warnock

Liev, a former atheist, calls in to discuss his recent exploration of theism and Judaism. He explains how he's been studying Jewish texts, which he finds meaningful even if not literal, viewing them as ancient people trying to connect with the divine. When hosts Matt Dillahunty and Dave Warnock ask why God is needed for meaning and purpose, Levi struggles to provide a clear definition of God, initially describing a non-interventionist deity that doesn't actively help people. The hosts push back that this sounds like secular humanism devoid of theism. Levi then suggests pantheism - that God emerges from dynamic interactions in the universe. However, the hosts argue this is not really a cogent God concept and just equates to looking at the universe and calling it God. As the discussion goes in circles about the nature of meaning and truth, the hosts accuse Levi of holding contradictory positions, caring about what's true while admitting his pantheism adds no actual meaning. They advise Levi to simply enjoy life and create his own meaning without latching onto vague God concepts for which he has no good reasons to believe. SUPPORT THE NETWORK --------------------------------------------------- Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/CallTheLine Become a Channel Member: SUPPORT PRODUCTION --------------------------------------------------- Paypal: https://www.paypal.me/mratheist Cashapp: https://cash.app/$jimmyasnow Amazon Wishlist: https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/3AXN5GUWNFFYA MORE LIVE SHOWS & CLIPS --------------------------------------------------- https://www.youtube.com/@callthelinex CONTACT US --------------------------------------------------- [email protected] HOSTS --------------------------------------------------- Jimmy Snow: @JimmySnow Matt Dillahunty: @SansDeity Arden Hart: https://twitter.com/theardenhart Katy Montgomerie: @KatyMontgomerie Forrest Valkai: @RenegadeScienceTeacher Dr. Ben: @FamilyDrBen Aron Ra: @AronRa Shannon Q: @ShannonQ John Gleason: @godlessengineer Dave Warnock: https://iamdyingoutloud.org/ ADDRESS --------------------------------------------------- The Line 110 N Interstate 35 Suite 315-1027 Round Rock, TX 78681 United States SHOWS ON THE LINE --------------------------------------------------- Sundays: The Sunday Show Monday: Skeptalk Tuesday: Dying Out Loud Wednesday: The Hang Up Thursday: The Trans Atlantic Call In Show (TACIS) Look out for “HOSTility” and “Cus I Wanna” any day, any time #CallTheLine