Discussion with Michael Just and Anna Gitelman: principles of deep biology, architecture, and design

This is a ~1 hour conversation with Michael Just (https://www.mjust.com/en/), an artist working on a PhD in architecture (with a focus on urbanism and diverse intelligence), and Anna Gitelman (https://www.suffolk.edu/academics/faculty/g/i/anna-gitelman), a close friend and Associate Professor of art and design. We cover issues of multiscale intelligence, creativity, and the form and function of future beings in the artificial environment, from the perspectives of biology and art.