Demis Hassabis – Scaling, Superhuman AIs, AlphaZero atop LLMs, AlphaFold

Here is my episode with Demis Hassabis, CEO of Google DeepMind We discuss: - Why scaling is an artform - Adding search, planning, & AlphaZero type training atop LLMs - Making sure rogue nations can't steal weights - The right way to align superhuman AIs and do an intelligence explosion Transcript: https://www.dwarkeshpatel.com/p/demis-hassabis Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/demis-hassabis-scaling-superhuman-ais-alphazero-atop/id1516093381?i=1000647410338 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/6SWbwjYPs5WevIoCCiSByS?si=nCVFSRr7QGGI_STgbrOBDA Follow me on Twitter: https://twitter.com/dwarkesh_sp Timestamps 0:00:00 Nature of intelligence 0:05:56 RL atop LLMs 0:16:31 Scaling and alignment 0:24:13 Timelines and intelligence explosion 0:28:42 Gemini training 0:35:30 Governance of superhuman AIs 0:40:42 Safety, open source, and security of weights 0:47:00 Multimodal and further progress 0:54:18 Inside Google DeepMind