Clarity, confusion and unity: the code words in the pre-conclave meetings

Welcome to America magazine’s Conclave Podcast. Our editors are on the ground in Rome covering the conclave to elect the next pope. Read more at: https://www.americamagazine.org/ In today’s episode from Rome, the team discusses: - The controversial presence at the pre-conclave meetings of Cardinal Becciu, convicted of embezzlement, and Cardinal Cipriani, who was sanctioned by the Vatican for alleged sexual abuse - The topics emerging in the cardinals’ secret meetings - Are “unity” and “clarity” becoming code words for reversing Francis’ style of governance? This episode features: - Sebastian Gomes, America’s executive editor of audio and video - Colleen Dulle, co-host of America’s “Inside the Vatican” podcast - Gerard O’Connell, Vatican correspondent and co-host of America’s “Inside the Vatican” podcast - Ashley McKinless, executive editor and co-host of America’s “Jesuitical” podcast - Zac Davis, director of digital strategy and co-host of America’s “Jesuitical” podcast - Sam Sawyer, S.J., America’s editor in chief Sign up for America’s subscriber-exclusive “Conclave Diary” daily newsletter and get all of our extensive coverage at: AmericaMagazine.org/Subscribe Links from the show: What Pope Francis taught us: Church teaching finds clarity and power in acts of mercy: https://www.americamagazine.org/faith/2025/04/28/francis-clarity-mercy-teacher-albertson-blakely-250509 Cardinal Becciu will not participate in conclave following dispute over right to vote: https://www.americamagazine.org/faith/2025/04/28/cardinal-becciu-conclave-250496 As Cardinals Prepare to Elect a Pope, One Motto Is ‘Unity.’ That’s Divisive: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/27/world/europe/cardinals-church-conclave-pope.html *Editor's note: Due to an editing error at 25:45 O'Connell refers to "Populorum progressio" and "Humanae vitae." These documents published by Pope Paul VI, not Pope John Paul II. --- America Media is the leading provider of editorial content for thinking Catholics and those who want to know what Catholics are thinking. To become a subscriber, visit https://www.americamagazine.org/subscribe ****** Sign-up for our newsletter: http://bit.ly/2Ka4SOi ****** Follow us on Social Media: • America Media on Facebook: http://bit.ly/2Kal3Ll • America Media on Twitter: http://bit.ly/2viJosZ • America Media on Instagram: http://bit.ly/2Ka5q6O ****** Support more videos like this: http://bit.ly/2vgqm6A