The MLSecOps Podcast | Season 3, Episode 15
With: Gavin Klondike
Hosted by: Dan McInerney & Marcello Salvati
Full transcript with links to resources: https://mlsecops.com/podcast/beyond-prompt-injection-ais-real-security-gaps
In Part 1 of this two-part MLSecOps Podcast, Principal Security Consultant Gavin Klondike joins Dan and Marcello to break down the real threats facing AI systems today. From prompt injection misconceptions to indirect exfiltration via markdown and the failures of ML Ops security practices, Gavin unpacks what the industry gets wrong—and how to fix it.
⏱️ Timestamps
00:29 – Gavin’s background
01:58 – Behind the OWASP Top 10 for LLMs
04:13 – The "8-year-old guarding a bank vault" analogy
14:52 – Real-world indirect prompt injection
18:07 – Why AI devs repeat old AppSec mistakes—and the role of threat modeling
22:43 – Defending against AI-specific attacks