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New York Times bestselling author and proper Liverpool fan, Brené Brown, joins Rog for an in-depth conversation about football, human connection, and why fans are afraid to feel joy. Brené also tells us how she fell in love with Liverpool FC, what she's watching for when she sees Arne Slot on the sidelines, and why you shouldn't engage in schadenfreude.
00:00 - “Collective effervescence” through football
05:07 - Is football a religion?
08:42 - sidebar: Gregg Popovich
09:49 - how Brene Brown found Liverpool
15:36 - learning Liverpool history
19:57 - Arne Slot and Jürgen Klopp
28:18 - Schadenfreude
32:20 - Joy, the most vulnerable emotion
34:52 - Willie Nelson’s “Amazing Grace”
38:00 - “You can’t give up on people”
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